Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-hermes.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!mit-hermes!daemon From: daemon@mit-hermes.ARPA (The devil himself) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: philosophy Message-ID: <2438@mit-hermes.ARPA> Date: Sun, 28-Jul-85 18:40:34 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-herm.2438 Posted: Sun Jul 28 18:40:34 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Jul-85 06:12:40 EDT Organization: The MIT AI Lab, Cambridge, MA Lines: 27 From ROBCHRJ%YALEVMX.BITNET@Berkeley Sun Jul 28 18:40:18 1985 Received: from UCB-VAX.ARPA (ucb-vax.arpa.ARPA) by MIT-HERMES.ARPA (4.12/4.8) id AA21966; Sun, 28 Jul 85 18:40:18 edt Received: from ucbjade.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (ucbjade.ARPA) by UCB-VAX.ARPA (4.24/5.3) id AA07122; Sun, 28 Jul 85 15:33:54 pdt Received: from UCBVAX.ARPA by ucbjade.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (4.19/4.36.1) id AA04832; Sun, 28 Jul 85 15:38:53 pdt Date: Sun, 28 Jul 85 15:38:51 pdt From: ROBCHRJ%YALEVMX.BITNET@Berkeley Message-Id: <8507282238.AA04832@ucbjade.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Apparently-To: Subject: Re: Indeterminism References: <1213@sjuvax.UUCP> Hurrah for some real light on this whole free-unfree will debate. It should have been clear from the start that the more vehement participants of this exchange haven't been addressing each others' issues at all. Could I suggest to the "free willers" that if they want to defuse Rich Rosen's opposition, they should just follow his demands and use different terminology? Calling the object of inquiry "uncoerced choice" instead of "free will" would not give Rich any reason to drag out his dictionary definitions. - Chris Roberson Calhoun College, Yale University