Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: "free" again Message-ID: <1402@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 2-Aug-85 18:35:56 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1402 Posted: Fri Aug 2 18:35:56 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Aug-85 09:03:41 EDT References: <242@frog.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 34 > One of the criteria for selecting or creating a meaning for > a word is usefulness. That is the epistemological principle > of economy in concepts. > > It is true that the meanings of "free will" used by Rosen > and Torek (excepting r-e-a) have been used for a long time. > However, there is one important difference between the two. > Rosen's meaning is entirely useless (except as an > argumentative foil!). For that reason, it would be > epistemological treason to yield to Rosen's contention that > "free will" means what he says it does (despite historical > precedent), let alone merely what he says it does; better > to not bother arguing that point. [HUDSON] It is true that the meaning of the word unicorn as commonly used has been in existence for a long time. However, that meaning is entirely useless!! It does not describe a real thing that exists! Thus, let's change the meaning of the word unicorn so that it becomes "useful". Let's, say, make it equivalent to "horse". There now we have unicorns. And we all WANT to have unicorns, just like we want to have freedom, right? So it must have been the "right" thing to do... > Rosen's definition deviates from extending the common > meaning of "free", which is not a matter of "micro" versus > "macro", or "now" versus "the past", but of perspective and > degree. Thus if I perceive or feel that I am free, I am. May I recommend Aldous Huxley's book "Brave New World". After reading that, tell me if those "everybody's happy nowadays" people are free. -- "There! I've run rings 'round you logically!" "Oh, intercourse the penguin!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr