Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lanl.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!lanl!jp From: jp@lanl.ARPA Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: freq. spectrum Message-ID: <28494@lanl.ARPA> Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 11:46:41 EDT Article-I.D.: lanl.28494 Posted: Fri Jul 19 11:46:41 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 15:08:36 EDT References: <99@biomed.UUCP> Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 70 > > I hope someone can help me with this one!!! : > > Most radio transmitting equipment on this planet seems to transmit on > frequencies from about 400 kHz up to 1.5 gHz and do this by using an > oscillator, various stages of blah-blah-blah to an RF amp and then to a > resonant metal object (antenna). > > Now, if I want to transmit at a frequency of, say, 1 kHz which is > obviously in the audio (20 Hz-18 kHz) range, do I just take an audio > oscillator, feed it to an audio amp, and instead of driving a speaker > (please don't laugh) connect it to a 300 km long antenna (speed of light / > freq. = wavelength) with some sort of impedence matching network? In other > words, how high up in frequency must one go before you can generate "RF", on > the other hand, how low in frequency can you go before you begin to affect > objects, people, etc. I mean, if I build an RF transmitter for 10 Hertz and > connect it to the proper aerial (about 30 Mm long), would it shake every > object that would resonate at 10 Hertz even though it is "RF" and not audio, > or not?? > Yes, you can radiate electromagnetic energy at arbitrary frequencies. The Navy uses very low frequencies (10-15kHz) for underwater communications. The antenna does not need to be a halfwavelength long in order to radiate, but a bigger antenna will, generally speaking, radiate more effectively. One problem that is worthy of consideration is that the bandwidth of the antenna may limit the speed of data transmission. (The lower the frequency the narrower the bandwidth for a given Q.) I believe the Navy uses slow speed Morse code for this reason. The usefulness of low frequency is the depth of penetration of the waves into the seawater, which is essentially a conductor. The depth of penetration is proportional to the square root of the resisitivity (reciprocal conductivity) and the square root of the reciprocal of the frequency. Electomagnetic radiation is an oscillating electric and magnet field that can heat conductors and interact with charged particles but should not shake objects. Sound is a mechanical vibration propagating through a massive medium (air, the earth, etc) that indeed can shake things around. (e.g. earthquakes, the famous Tacoma Narrows bridge(I believe) that was destroyed by a resonant excitation from the wind. (Moral, build low Q bridges.) > Another stupid question: It seems that most low frequency (AM broadcast, > etc.) systems use enormous amounts of transmitting power as opposed to UHF > transmitters which use flea power in comparison. Why? How do the physics > of the propagation medium (dry air) affect how much power you need in > relation to where you are transmitting in the spectrum? > AM broadcast stations use relatively inefficient antennas, almost always significantly shorter than a quarter wavelength. Furthermore, the radio on which you receive them has a very inefficient antenna, it is usually just a coil of wire on a ferrite rod that makes up the inductance of the input tuned circuit. In contrast, television and fm broadcasters have arrays of resonant antennas designed to focus their radiation parallel to the earth. Likewise, you have a fancy antenna on top of your house to receive them, unless they are very near. In the broadcast world, AM stations use 250W to 50kW, while most TV stations are in the 50KW ballpark. When a TV station quotes numbers like 1 Megawatt they are talking about effective radiated power (ERP) which is antenna gain times transmitter power. The actual power required for communications (with a given signal to noise ratio) depends on antenna gains, receiver noise figure, and bandwidth. And, also on the conductivity of the medium. Air can be quite lossy at some frequencies (like 10GHz). > > Thank You for all answers. Glad to be of assistance. Jim Potter jp@lanl.arpa