Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site uvacs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mcnc!ncsu!uvacs!rwl From: rwl@uvacs.UUCP (Ray Lubinsky) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: FUSION (``it's always 20 years down the road?'') Message-ID: <2253@uvacs.UUCP> Date: Sat, 20-Jul-85 23:06:58 EDT Article-I.D.: uvacs.2253 Posted: Sat Jul 20 23:06:58 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Jul-85 23:48:57 EDT References: <284@greipa.UUCP> Organization: U.Va. CS in Charlottesville VA Lines: 26 > Some people have been raving about how fusion will be acheived > soon or how it won't. Well, stop me if I'm wrong, but hasn't > this already been acheived some time ago with the shiva laser > at AMES? When I was there they had been fusing deuterium for > awhile( or so they said, anyway). Perhaps they're raving about > commercial plants? > -- That's just the point. I think that the fusion engine at Lawrence Livermore Laboratories has only just (this year?) sustained a fusion reaction at the break-even point. Up to then, more energy was pumped into the lasers than was being extracted from the system. This is a long way from commercial energy production. I've always heard it said (for completely different reasons) that AI and fusion are always 20 years down the road. It does seem like profitable fusion is attainable in the next ten years, given a sufficient method for mass-producing deuterium. I'm glad the research is being done, but I'm curious as to how profitably the laser implosion method will compare with the variants on the tokamak (toroidal) scheme. The setup at LLL seems like such a behemoth. Anyone care to hazard an educated guess? -- Ray Lubinsky University of Virginia, Dept. of Computer Science uucp: decvax!mcnc!ncsu!uvacs!rwl