Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site prometheus.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!prometheus!pmk From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: My "FUSION this decade?" this article Message-ID: <154@prometheus.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Jul-85 03:20:12 EDT Article-I.D.: promethe.154 Posted: Tue Jul 30 03:20:12 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Jul-85 23:35:20 EDT References: <291@greipa.UUCP> <694@charm.UUCP> Organization: Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD Lines: 64 > A note on "breaking even": > When I last looked, this meant that the plasma heated itself as > much as it was heated. It ignores the inefficiencies of plasma > heating (I know, space heaters are 100% efficient, but they don't > heat plasmas) and the ineff. of converting heat to electrical power. > George R. Lake There are two "break evens" scientific and commercial. Since, all of the DOE funded projects will never work "commercially" primarily for engineering reasons, they only talk about "scientific breakeven". The reason for this is that DOE only funds concepts for which there is a "plasma physics basis". It turns out that plasma physics is being discovered largely due to the work in fusion. The DOE can only fund projects that have been invented and tested else- where, unless they are so damn complicated, i. e. "Elmo bumpy torus", that the theorist have enough loop holes to think it might work. The two biggest and oldest devices are the tokamak and mirror (both from mother Russia) and neither has the slightest hope of being commercialized. And burn radiactive Tritium-Deuterium which then generates copious amounts of neutrons??? Dumb! The "National Fusion Program" is a joke, it can't stop funding obsolete concepts. Why?: because it doesn't apply engineering criteria to determine if it can be commercialized after a reasonable period of physics investigation (5-10 years). Think of it simply "does it cost to much to build and maintain." On the other hand it can't start new projects, either. > No one has ever collected energy from these fusion devices! > By way of prediction: Fusion energy will not supply power to > the grid in this century If DOD gets interested "they need high power density not so much energy" then your predictions will not hold. Even the Sphermoak could produce very useful pulsed power for defense applications and the PLASMAKtm technology appears to be able to generate fusion with the proficiency and application found in science fiction movies. For engineering reasons, PLASMAKtm commercial fusion "breakeven" could be demonstrated within three years. Success would be guaranteed within one year if the special magnetoplasmoid can be formed. Continuouly forming and burning the fusion core of these plasmoids at sixty hertz, would generate 1 mega kilowatt electric, and the volume of each compressed plasmoid would be only 100 cubic centimeters. A good fuel would be Hydrogen Boron-isotope eleven. It would not have the difficult plant size problems or down times extrapolated for the DOE devices. And, as a final note, Bell Telephone Labs, Murray Hill NJ, Akira Hasegawa has invented a super compressed PLASMAKtm generated with a laser or particle beam. This work may be funded here only because the inertial confinment division is under the gun and can't justify its existance with the crappy prospects of approaches such a "NOVA". This work will more likely be carried out by the Japanese at Osaka. M. Mimura is also involved in more conventional PLASMAKtm research. PLASMAKtm is a trademark of Prometheus II, Ltd. - - NOTE: MAIL PATH MAY DIFFER FROM HEADER - - +-------------------------------------------------------+--------+ | Paul M. Koloc, President: (301) 445-1075 | FUSION | | Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD 20740-0222 | this | | pmk@prometheus.UUCP; ..seismo!prometheus!pmk.UUCP | decade | +-------------------------------------------------------+--------+