Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!allegra!oliveb!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpfcla!art From: art@hpfcla.UUCP (art) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <15100001@hpfcrs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 12:12:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hpfcrs.15100001 Posted: Thu Jul 25 12:12:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Aug-85 22:20:09 EDT References: <371@kontron.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Fort Collins, CO Lines: 18 Nf-ID: #R:kontron:371:hpfcrs:15100001:37777777600:860 Nf-From: hpfcrs!art Jul 25 08:12:00 1985 Re: Bang! or whot? Here's a data point for you: "The second group of physicists holds that all attributes are at first blended together in the universe and then become distinguished from one another. This is the view of Anaximander, and also of those like Empedocles and Anaxagoras who assume the existance of a single undifferentiated material mass as well as of many discrete objects. For Empedocles and Anaxagoras also hold that things emerge from a universal mixture but they differ in that one says the emergence occurs in cycles while the other says it happened only once." Aristotle 'Physica' 187a20 Given the length of time the controversy has been raging, it seems unlikely that it will be resolved in this millennium. Course, you might check over in net.religion. They are probably more up to date on creation myths. art dumont