Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site charm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!charm!grl From: grl@charm.UUCP (George Lake) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: My "FUSION this decade?" this article Message-ID: <712@charm.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Jul-85 17:15:40 EDT Article-I.D.: charm.712 Posted: Wed Jul 31 17:15:40 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 2-Aug-85 01:29:05 EDT References: <291@greipa.UUCP> <694@charm.UUCP>, <330@dcl-cs.UUCP> Organization: Physics Research @ AT&T Bell Labs Murray Hill NJ Lines: 13 I had a passing remark that space heaters are 100% efficient that was objected to on the basis of the second law of thermodynamics. A space heater takes electricity and converts it to heat-- a highly entropic process and it is 100% efficient. The second law tells you that you can't go the other way with 100% eff. BTW, heat pumps have an efficiency greater than 100%. They are air conditioners run backwards. They generate heat on their own and draw some from the ground. They still obey the second law. Sorry to take up space responding to a silly attempt by someone to be clever.