Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ucbvax!kre From: kre@ucbvax.ARPA (Robert Elz) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.legal Subject: Re: Seat Belts Message-ID: <9389@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Sat, 27-Jul-85 07:28:26 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9389 Posted: Sat Jul 27 07:28:26 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 06:42:41 EDT References: <316@baylor.UUCP> <783@burl.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 22 Xref: linus net.politics:9469 net.legal:1530 In article <783@burl.UUCP>, rcj@burl.UUCP (Curtis Jackson) writes: > My solution to seatbelt, helmet, anti-suicide, and other such 'preventative' > laws is simple: get rid of them. You're going to tell me that I can't > take a risk that endangers no one but me? You're going to tell me that > I can't kill myself if I want to? Rubbish! While the risks may endanger no-one but you (perhaps), its not true that they harm no-one but you. When you are injured, your insurance pays you, and I pay your insurance company. You sit in hospital and use the last bed, so the hospital has to build a new wing, and I pay for it. You croak, and use the last cheap plot in the cemetery, so now I have to buy a more expensive one. After all this, your "freedom" has still not stopped costing me ... Now your ex-employer has to employ someone else, and train them, I pay more for his product. So, please, if you want to kill yourself, do it in some way that everyone knows that's what you are doing, and make sure that you succeed, no insurance, no hospital. That still doesn't recover all the costs, but it at least will save some of them. Remember that society has an investment in you - you owe us! Robert Elz ucbvax!kre