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From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Re: America-bashing
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Date: Mon, 29-Jul-85 19:06:33 EDT
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>> >I take particular offense at being compared
>> >to Russia. We certainly are not on the same moral plane as Russia. 
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>> It's this kind of unthinking highmindedness that irritates people. Why
>> do you say this? Have you ever given much serious thought to what the US
>> government really does?
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>Read some Russian history, particularly of the Stalin era.  You don't
>have to take my word for this.
>Bill Tanenbaum

I've read about the Stalin era. Maybe you haven't. It seems to teach us
that a government can be a self-serving as it wants, massively abusing
civil libiterties and yet claim that it's all for the people.

Sound familiar? Maybe you weren't a japanese american during world war
II. Maybe you weren't a "communist sympathizer" during the '50's. Maybe
you weren't a black person 120+ years ago. Maybe you weren't a native
american (any time in history will do). 

Here it comes... the massive flame saying "how can you pick on the good
'ol USA?!!!!" I'm not really. I never said that we were the evil of the
universe, I merely meant to point out that our hands are not spotless. A
simple assertion such as "we are not on the same moral plane" is
ludicrous! 

Read some american history, particularly during the McCarthy era. You
don't have to take my word for this.

-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX
"I can't think of the most offensive thing I've said...
   ...what's your mother's name again?"
-Rev. Wang Zeep