Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site teddy.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!teddy!lkk From: lkk@teddy.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: America-bashing Message-ID: <1062@teddy.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Jul-85 17:47:10 EDT Article-I.D.: teddy.1062 Posted: Tue Jul 30 17:47:10 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Aug-85 05:45:20 EDT References: <3268@drutx.UUCP> <10615@rochester.UUCP> <444@mit-vax.UUCP> <962@ihlpg.UUCP> <494@mit-vax.UUCP> Reply-To: lkk@teddy.UUCP (Larry K. Kolodney) Organization: GenRad, Inc., Concord, Mass. Lines: 51 Summary: Be serio charles... In article <494@mit-vax.UUCP> csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) writes: > >I've read about the Stalin era. Maybe you haven't. It seems to teach us >that a government can be a self-serving as it wants, massively abusing >civil libiterties and yet claim that it's all for the people. > >Sound familiar? Maybe you weren't a japanese american during world war >II. Maybe you weren't a "communist sympathizer" during the '50's. Maybe >you weren't a black person 120+ years ago. Maybe you weren't a native >american (any time in history will do). > >Here it comes... the massive flame saying "how can you pick on the good >'ol USA?!!!!" I'm not really. I never said that we were the evil of the >universe, I merely meant to point out that our hands are not spotless. A >simple assertion such as "we are not on the same moral plane" is >ludicrous! > >Read some american history, particularly during the McCarthy era. You >don't have to take my word for this. > >-- >Charles Forsythe >CSDF@MIT-VAX >"I can't think of the most offensive thing I've said... > ...what's your mother's name again?" >-Rev. Wang Zeep Be serious Charles. Nothing in the history of the United States in this century compares with the outright genocide that occured in the soviet union during the stalin era. Surely we've had some serious blights on our history (black slavery, indian genocide), but to compare the level of freedom today in the U.S. with that in the USSR is doing a grave injustice to those suffering in that country. Both the quantity and quality of police state tactics in this country pale by comparison to those used by the KGB. Come on Charles, you can stop proving how "politically correct" you are. You don't have to feel obliged to go overboard in fighting anti-soviet hysteria by being equally blind in the opposite direction. -- Sport Death, Larry Kolodney (USENET) ...decvax!genrad!teddy!lkk (INTERNET) lkk@mit-mc.arpa