Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site psuvax1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cadre!psuvax1!berman From: berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Hunger and the Free Market Message-ID: <1677@psuvax1.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 03:08:13 EDT Article-I.D.: psuvax1.1677 Posted: Thu Aug 1 03:08:13 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Aug-85 09:40:32 EDT References: <527@gargoyle.UUCP> <7800362@inmet.UUCP> Organization: Pennsylvania State Univ. Lines: 33 > > Before anyone talks further about whether socialism is a good > basis for agriculture, I suggest you read some case histories. > > I suggest two books: > > "A Pattern for Failure" by Sven Rydenfelt (which JoSH has > suggested before) and > "Endless Enemies, The Making of an Unfriendly World" by Jonathan Kwitny > > I haven't finished "Endless Enemies" yet, but so far it's a hell of a > read. The author was a reporter for the Wall Street Journal. > > I AM curious about carnes' outline -- what evidence do Lappe and > Collins give for the following? > > > Lessons from societies eliminating hunger. The only countries > > effectively overcoming hunger, according to Lappe and Collins, are > > those incorporating aspects of "socialism," where people are trying > > to create an economic system in which all have the opportunity to > > participate in decisions about the use of resources and in which all > > are assured of food security. > > Which countries did they use as examples for THIS little gem of > wisdom? Over what time span? Peples Republic of China. The only overpopulated country which tackled food production, food disribution and population growth. What are the countries in which hunger was widespread, now is mostly eliminated and which had (relatively) free market? P. Berman