Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re*3: Islam Message-ID: <1651@dciem.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Aug-85 20:58:16 EDT Article-I.D.: dciem.1651 Posted: Tue Aug 6 20:58:16 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Aug-85 00:24:55 EDT References: <10@unc.UUCP> <41@unc.UUCP> Reply-To: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Distribution: net Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 24 Summary: >you to the exact point I was making. It is not appropriate to >characterize Sufi beliefs with quotes from Kohomeni. > >> >> Sure, Shiites get their jollies from blowing away lots of people. > > All of them do? Even the Sufi? The Sufi are Shi'ites. Sorry. Sufi are not necessarily Muslim, and certainly do not all belong to one sect. Islam has been hospitable to Sufi, but Sufism transcends formalized religion, and in fact is pretty well antagonistic to any such formalism. The different sects of Sufism, by their very existence, deviate from Sufi teachings. Idris Shah even claims that Mediaeval European orders of knighthood were derived in some cases from Sufi origins. (I know this isn't politics, but I don't want to start a discussion on the subject, and the matter was brought up in net.politics.) -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsri!dciem!mmt