Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: AA/Quota's, etc, why I don't like them... Message-ID: <489@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Jul-85 15:14:50 EDT Article-I.D.: mmintl.489 Posted: Mon Jul 15 15:14:50 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 04:27:40 EDT References: <3890@alice.UUCP> <234@ubvax.UUCP> <726@ihlpg.UUCP> <243@ubvax.UUCP> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 24 Summary: Parental circumstances or attitudes In article <243@ubvax.UUCP> tonyw@ubvax.UUCP (Tony Wuersch) writes: >I think what I said was that improving education (i.e. giving everyone >a better education) would not change who gets the good careers and >who gets the bad ones. This is because better parental background >reflects itself as more educational success which translates into >better careers. I find it interesting that no one has seen fit to examine what seems to me to be the fundamental underlying problem with this argument. That is the assumption that the parents' JOB is the relevant factor. It seems to me that the parents' attitudes and culture are the more relevant variable. Those brought up in families where the parents read books, hold intelligent conversations, and regard school work as important can be expected to do better than those that don't. And those families are (I don't, of course, have any statistics; how do you measure this?) by and large precisely those where the parents have good jobs -- because they have these attitudes. What is not clear is that giving a person a good job will change these attitudes. Maybe it will, at least in some cases. But it does not look to me like a direct attack on the cycle of poverty. The only way to break the cycle of poverty is to change attitudes.