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From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Re: America-bashing
Message-ID: <444@mit-vax.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 10:21:28 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul 23 10:21:28 1985
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In article <10615@rochester.UUCP> ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank) writes:
>I take particular offense at being compared
>to Russia. We certainly are not on the same moral plane as Russia. 

It's this kind of unthinking highmindedness that irritates people. Why
do you say this? Have you ever given much serious thought to what the US
government really does? Has your phone ever been tapped? I know people
who's phone has been tapped -- because they were political feminists.
I wonder if the KGB came in for consulting work. Also, in light of
previous topics: Russia has never USED a nuclear weapon to kill anybody,
America has. Same moral plane? It's much to complecated. It brings to
mind a line from Woody Allen's "Love and Death":

Russian Soldier: Who would you rather be ruled by, Napoleon or the Czar?

Woody (also a Russian soldier): Doesn't matter, they're both crooks.

>I'm fed up with those that say they hate us.

Nobody likes to be told they're unpopular.
>What we have to realize is that it's their problem,
>don't make it mine.

It's americans they hate. Are you an american?

>Don't attempt to make me feel wrong, unethical, immoral, or
>guilty. 

I wouldn't dream of it. All I suggested was that we should try to
understand those who hate us. The letter you responded to was about a
man who was attacked on a foreign street for no reason. He wanted to
know why. Good for him! You don't seem to want to know why, you just
want to respond with more hate. That never solved ANYTHING. 

>
>"I hang out my yellow briefs for all the world to see, you hang yours in the
>basement and say you never pee."
You wonder why your (international) neighbors don't like you...

-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX
"I always try to avoid cliche's like the plague!"
        -Rev. Wang Zeep