Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!trwrb!scgvaxd!pertec!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Slippery slope nightmares Message-ID: <376@kontron.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Jul-85 17:30:14 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.376 Posted: Wed Jul 17 17:30:14 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Jul-85 05:09:35 EDT References: <991@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> <245@ubvax.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 41 > In article <991@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA>, mwm@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (Mike (I'll be mellow when I'm dead) Meyer) writes: > > This is the brush that tars statist of all stripes. They know what's > > best for people, and are going to pass laws (or regulations, or royal > > pronouncements, or whatever) to see that those things are done or not > > done. We have another word to describe that kind of society; we call it > > a dictatorship. > > > > > Oh sure there's a slippery slope for anyone who wants to pass prescriptive > laws. Maybe their lust for more prescriptive laws (politicians as > capitalists, I guess) will lead to a tightening noose which would > someday equal dictatorship. > > It's never happened (maybe in Switzerland? :-)). Dictatorships are > established not by politicians following slippery slopes, but rather > by coups in times of extreme crisis. Dictators come as saviors, > not as well-meaning limited liberal politicians. The kind of > dictatorship that mike fears has never happened (although again, > Switzerland ... [remember the movie "Bread and Chocolate"?] :-)) > Hitler and Mussolini came to power by election, not by coup. While Hitler had no good intentions, I suspect Mussolini may have, but evil tends to build on its self. > This slippery slope of one law leading to a cascade leading to > dictatorship is a silly nightmare. We should reassure people who > have these nightmares that the world is not so gloomy. > Yeah, there's no need to worry about elections like the one that gave Germany Hitler as chancellor. > Pragmatic people live on slippery slopes all the time. They just > carve out horizontal niches for themselves and maybe put up some > barriers against avalanches. > > Tony Wuersch > {amd,amdcad}!cae780!ubvax!tonyw > As technology increases the power of government, the barriers against "avalanches" become increasingly inadequate.