Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site harvard.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!sasaki From: sasaki@harvard.ARPA (Marty Sasaki) Newsgroups: net.rec.photo Subject: Thoughts on the Zone System Message-ID: <286@harvard.ARPA> Date: Mon, 5-Aug-85 04:39:09 EDT Article-I.D.: harvard.286 Posted: Mon Aug 5 04:39:09 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Aug-85 00:23:28 EDT References: <54600009@trsvax> <4088@alice.UUCP> <1418@peora.UUCP> Reply-To: sasaki@harvard.UUCP (Marty sasaki) Organization: Harvard Science Center Lines: 43 There seems to be a bit of confusion about what the Zone System is all about. Here are my opinions of the Zone System. Be warned that I studied with Minor White (one of the major Photography as Mysticism teachers). The main point of the Zone System is previsualization. It is not just exposure with spot meters and special development. It is not contact prints from 8x10 negatives. The Zone System is knowing how you want a print to look and then applying whatever is necessary to acheive the finished print. Ansel Adams usually printed on the same grade of paper because he had a system to expand or reduce the tonal range of his negatives so that he could print on the same grade. With roll film (and 35mm) you cannot use the same grade of paper because you can't control the individual tonal range of negatives by development. You can use different grades of paper to acheive the same results. Anyone who does a lot of photography will do things that fit within the Zone System, even though they don't know it. Most serious photographers will come up with a personal film speed for the films that they shoot most often. The development of film is also played with until the contrast is right (allowing printing "normal" negatives on "normal" graded paper). Glance through Adams' "The Negative" and you will see that determining film speed and normal development are important first steps in the Zone System. If manipulation of a print is important to acheive the previsualized effect, then you should do it. Burning in, dodging, using hot developer, bleaching, etc., these are all important tools in realizing the final image. Bill Pierce, a well known magazine photographer, once wrote an article in Camera 35 on the Zone System where he said, "I would rather drop my pants in Times Square than use the Zone System. He then described how he did things. Guess what? He described a system remarkably like one described in the "Zone System Manual". -- ---------------- Marty Sasaki net: sasaki@harvard.{arpa,uucp} Havard University Science Center phone: 617-495-1270 One Oxford Street Cambridge, MA 02138