Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site oliveb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!gnome From: gnome@oliveb.UUCP (Gary Traveis) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Invasive religions Message-ID: <517@oliveb.UUCP> Date: Wed, 24-Jul-85 14:53:12 EDT Article-I.D.: oliveb.517 Posted: Wed Jul 24 14:53:12 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 22:36:15 EDT Distribution: net Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca Lines: 62 Is it my imagination or do most people need a religion or other organization to tell them what to do with their lives? In recent years, I have been noticing a lot of friends/co-workers getting in to what I call "invasive religions" - namely evangelical Born-Again Christians (BACs) and Jahova's(sp) Witnesses (JW's). I use the term "invasive" because they both have a built-in rule that their members must always be in the process of pushing their religion on non-believers. I'm faced with three cases of this, one evangelical BAC and two JWs. All three are married couples where one person from each couple has "found it" and caused an undue amount of stress in their relationships. When one gets into an invasive religion and the other doesn't, one of three things usually happen. 1) The marriage breaks up (either on paper or in their minds). 2) The non-believer must convert. 3) The believer must bend the rules to accomodate their relationship. #2 can take place over a long period of time. Usually starting out as a slow, tedious wearing-away of the person to be converted. This usually happens through 5-8 hours a day of intermittent preaching and nagging - 7 days a week. I call it conversion by osmosis. #3 very rarely happens because the religion is generally inflexible and provides a support network of other church members that can help the believer through these troubled times (see #1) and, if possible, move their relationship towards #2 (conversion). In one of the three relationships, the believer has decided to work part-time (or leave work altogether) in order to further spread the religion. This leaves the non-believer to support the family. I am just waiting for the stress to build up and hear the believer blame their mate's troubles on their lack of faith! I've also noticed that the more an individual get into an invasive religion, the less they can interact with other non-believers. Hardly five minutes can go by without them quoting passage&verse in relation to the weather, sports, politics, TV, color of hair, and shoe size. It's one thing to have a deep conviction to your religion, but when it turns a person into a biblical mynah bird I feel that there is something wrong. Oh well, enough flaming. Let me know what you think. Typed in without much forethought... Gary (hplabs,ihnp4,allegra)oliveb!olivee!gnome