Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cvl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!cvl!harwood From: harwood@cvl.UUCP (David Harwood) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: reply to Martillo concerning Jesus' genealogy Message-ID: <673@cvl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Jul-85 13:27:58 EDT Article-I.D.: cvl.673 Posted: Tue Jul 30 13:27:58 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Aug-85 20:01:30 EDT Distribution: net Organization: Computer Vision Lab, U. of Maryland, College Park Lines: 52 Reply to a question: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >From: martillo@mit-athena.UUCP (Yakim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Why Jesus' genealogy is important Message-ID: <295@mit-athena.UUCP> Date: 29 Jul 85 18:22:56 GMT If establishing Jesus' claim to the throne of David was important, and if this claim was so important, why did Pilate, have rex iudaeorum (Herod the Great's title in Latin) rather than rex israelis (David's title in Latin) inscribed on the cross of execution (I may have misunderstood the account and the actual inscription may have been in Greek but the actual language is not important)? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The real question is why did the author of John give this account. But no one can certainly know whether there is any intended significance in giving a title which is less provocative and political than "King of Israel", the title of the expected successor of David. Anyway, John does not emphasize the importance of Jesus being the expected physical descendent of David; rather, he emphasizes the pre-existent and spiritual nature of the Messiah, identifying him by the pre-existent Glory which appeared to Abraham, Isaiah, and also David. As it is said in the final discourse, "I have made your Name known to those You have given me, therefore they are assured that I was sent by you." (A similar revelation by God was made for Moses, so that the people would know that he was indeed "sent" by God. That's what "apostle" means.) For this reason it is said that Jesus has been "glorified" by God, "given the highest Name in Heaven", which Name is pronounced by God alone. In John, Jesus also said, "My kingdom is not of this world," which would dismiss the importance of being of lineage for political leadership of Israel. On the other hand, I recall that David himself was the descendent of two good-hearted Gentile women. Nevertheless, David was favored by God because he was "a man after My own heart," desiring to build a lasting Temple among men. This is what it means to be a Son of David. Jesus forsaw that the earthly Second Temple would be destroyed, but he said that he would build an everlasting Temple, by his eternal resurrection in the hearts of mankind. Everyone, of the will of God, is a spiritual descendent of David. Therefore, it is the spiritual lineage and authority of Christ which is important, more than his physical descent. The other is only important to controversialists on either side, since the apostles, who had despaired of Jesus upon his execution, could never contradict the revelation of God by which Christ was known to be "glorified". David Harwood