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From: padraig@utastro.UUCP (Padraig Houlahan)
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Subject: Re: Assumed evil in non-christians and assumed good in christians
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Date: Thu, 18-Jul-85 12:02:35 EDT
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> > > 
> > > > [K A Dahlke]
> > > > 	Well this is truly disgusting and insulting.
> > > > I usually refrain from posting to this news group,
> > > > but I just cannot control myself.
> > > > What possible objective evidence do you have for implying
> > > > that Christians are statistically more moral than non-Christians;
> > > > and please don't spread any more BS about forgiveness or
> > > > the Holy spirit helping you along.
> > > 
> > > Hm!  Show that X occurs, but you're not allowed to use the cause of X
> > > as a reason for the occurrence of X.
> > 
> > [Padraig Houlahan]
> > This is garbage. Demonstrating that X occurs does not require
> > explaining why it occurs.
> 
> Not quite.  Karl says, prove Christians are more moral, but don't talk
> about the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit *is* the reason.  If you are
> disallowed from referring to Him, there's nothing to say.
> 
> Paul DuBois     {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois        --+--

You are still incorrect. Showing that something occurs is not the same
as explaining why it occurs. It is similar to proving that there is coffee
on the table; it does not matter how it got there etc.

Padraig Houlahan.