Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cybvax0.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Evidences for Religion (reposting) Message-ID: <624@cybvax0.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 11:30:23 EDT Article-I.D.: cybvax0.624 Posted: Fri Jul 19 11:30:23 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Jul-85 02:18:58 EDT References: <1182@pyuxd.UUCP> <800@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1202@pyuxd.UUCP> <2127@pucc-h> <618@cybvax0.UUCP> <1299@uwmacc.UUCP> Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 24 In article <1299@uwmacc.UUCP> dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) writes: > > > [Mike Huybensz] > > Morality is an evolutionarily adaptive trait. It can be a heuristic for > > optimizing reproductive success. Just like intelligence. > > You merely remove the question one level. Why should evolutionary > adaptiveness be valued? Or survival? (Again, I may agree that they > *should be*, but why should I believe it, for reasons *you* can > give?) You misunderstand. There is evolutionary selection for the trait "morality" (not any specific morality) because "moral" people can outcompete those without the trait. And there is competition between the different moralities (and evolution of them) with slightly different modes of propagation and mutation. Valuing morality is one of the adaptive positive feedback characteristics of morality itself. Just as an organism that didn't choose to reproduce would tend to die out, so a morality that didn't value itself would tend to die out. -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh