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From: teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz)
Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish
Subject: Re: Re: Clarification indeed!
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Date: Wed, 17-Jul-85 13:03:22 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jul 17 13:03:22 1985
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> >...                                                   In addition, while
> >I will not harm him, I believe that he is harming me (unlike Rich who
> >states that his actions are totally private and do not harm me, but then
> >Rich does not agree that his actions have the consequences I believe
> >they do). First of all, there is the harm done to the soul of the Jewish
> >people, second his actions delay the coming of the Meshiach (Messiah),
> >and third (this applies to non-Jewish homosexuals as well, but mainly in
> >the land of Israel) acts of abomination cause retaliation by God against
> >the land.  [AVI FELDBLUM]
> 
> What is this "soul" of the Jewish people?  Where is your objective evidence
> about the "coming of the Meshiach"?  Until you can provide such evidence
> about such things, you have no basis for complaining about harm, and your
> basis for discriminating against other people is nil.  Your beliefs are
> your beliefs.  If you have enough prove of their veracity to convince
> other people to agree with them, fine.  If you don't, then leave those who
> disagree alone.  As Yosi Hoshen said in his response to you, Jews are not
> specially exempt.  If you can justify your own intolerance based on a book
> whose veracity you cannot prove, why shouldn't others, like the Nazis,
> or the fundamentalist Christians, be able to "justify" intolerance of YOU?
> If you can't come up with a good answer to that one (beyond the usual
> "Don't you dare compare Jews to Nazis!!!!!"), then you have no basis for
> justifying your intolerance.
> 


	Rich,

	On what do you base your intollerance of everyone and everything
 said on this net ( except for those who agree with you )?

	We all know you don't believe the Torah is something special. I
 personally have no objective proof to that fact. If you want to read an 
 interesting little article about G-D and why He doesn't let Himself be
 seen read the pamphlet 'If You Were G-D ' ( or something along those lines)
 written by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan. If you want me to send you a copy I'll
 be glad to.

			Eliyahu Teitz.