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From: ask@cbdkc1.UUCP (A.S. Kamlet)
Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish
Subject: Re: Re: What is really important?
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Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 17:48:27 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jul 19 17:48:27 1985
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>  :
>  :
> 	With the article I am responding to we have finally sunk to our
>  lowest level. Invariably someone comes out and starts slinging mud. From
>  what I had seen of the discussion so far, it was getting a little hot, but
>  no real defamation. Now, we get someone posting about another person's toilet
>  problems. And then, just to finish Mr. Samet off for good, a prayer that
>  he never have children. 
> 
> 	I ask you, the readers of this net, is this what we are all about?
>  Has N.R.J and Judaism in general just become a forum and way of insulting
>  one another? Does the author of the article to which I am responding feel
>  better, now that he has insulted Mr. Samet? Does anyone feel better?
> 
> 	We can have interesting discussions, indeed heated discussions,
>  about anything in Judaism, even the validity of the Torah ( although
>  most of the discussions would be fruitless, since those discussing have 
>  no intention of listening to the other side of the discussion ). But, 
>  when we do sit down to discuss articles, we must be gentlemanly ( and
>  gentlewomanly, for those who get insulted about by the quirks of language ).
>  There is no need to insult an adversary. It does not enhance the argument
>  one iota. In fact, it tarnishes the argument. Do you insult the other 
>  person because you have no answer to his query, and you wish to deflect
>  attention from that point?
>  :
>  :
>  We must be careful not to make these dicussions personal vendettas against
>  others on this net. Likewise, we should not use this forum as a means to
>  show our assumed superior knowledge of Torah or other subjects. We 
>  should use this arena to furter tolerance of Judaism amongst ourselves,
>  and tolerance of others, too. Tolerance does not mean that you can do 
>  whatever you want and you are right in doing it. I can say that you are
>  wrong in doing something. I just can't stop you from doing it. I will
>  :
> 
> 
> 				Eliyahu Teitz.

Very well stated!

Name calling and mud slinging are not my idea of Jewish values, ideals,
philosophy, laws, or or anything else that I'd like to read on this net.
-- 
Art Kamlet  AT&T Bell Laboratories  Columbus {ihnp4 | cbosgd}!cbrma!ask