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From: jho@ihu1m.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen)
Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish
Subject: Re: Re: Down to Brass Tacks
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Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 19:23:50 EDT
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> > >>What I am trying to demonstrate is the lack of rooting in actual fact
> > >>that these beliefs have, which shouldn't dissuade anyone from holding
> > >>them, but should certainly dissuade them from trying to justify IMPOSING
> > >>it on others. [ROSEN]
> > -- 
> 
> 
> It's hard to have a net.religion.jewish that satisfies everyone. It is,
> however, fair to say that there should be some common ground among
> members of the net. Nobody is imposing on Rosen or anyone else to 
> contribute to n.r.j. , but let's have certain ground rules for those
> who want to contribute. This net discusses different aspects of Judaism--
> orthodoxy vs. conservatism vs. reform vs. reconstructionism vs. humanism ,,,,
> ,Israel,....etc. It has not, at least until recently, questioned the basic
> underpinnings of Judaism itself, nor should it. If someone isn't sure about
> what religion he belongs to, or chooses to affiliate with, let him discuss
> it outside of this group (in net.religion or elsewhere). 
> 
> 
>                                            Ari Gross

I think Rich is raising a very important issue here, that of religious
coercion.  Unfortunately, religious coercion is central to orthodox
Judaism thinking.  The effort by the religionists in Israel to ban 
the sales of pork in Israel, recently, is just a typical example of
the aim of the religionists to impose their dietary laws on the
rest of society.  It is quite clear that if they could have their
way they would introduce Khumeinism Jewish style in Israel.  

In the light of the above religious imposition effort, I claim that
Rich posting are very relevant to this news group.
-- 
Yosi Hoshen, AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois,  Mail: ihnp4!ihu1m!jho