Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!jagardner From: jagardner@watmath.UUCP (Jim Gardner) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: any moorcock fans out there? Message-ID: <15944@watmath.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Jul-85 10:19:31 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.15944 Posted: Tue Jul 30 10:19:31 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Jul-85 04:20:34 EDT References: <3329@decwrl.UUCP> Reply-To: jagardner@watmath.UUCP (Jim Gardner) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 39 [...] The concept of the Eternal Champion shows up in a lot of unusual places. Moorcock almost certainly plucked his from Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter of Mars series. (Is anyone surprised? Close to the start of the first John Carter book, Carter searches his memory and can remember taking part in wars 200 years earlier; he cannot, however, remember being born, nor going for any length of time when he was not fighting some war. He had the impression that he had fought in "some very strange places".) Moorcock's first published writing was a trilogy of Martian stories that are HIGHLY reminiscent of the John Carter series. Other Eternal Champion stuff: Adrienne Martine-Barnes wrote a so-so novel entitled "The Dragon Rises" in which the Dragon was clearly a duplicate of the Eternal Champion. The jist of the story is that there are a few souls (known by animal names) who are constantly summoned from another "plane" to earth in order to buy off some bad karma those souls picked up somehow. The Dragon is the war-like one who must eventually find peace...although it's not as bad as that makes it sound. I'm just now reading The Summer Tree, an unremarkable book by Guy Gavriel Kay (for University of Toronto students out there, you might be pleased that the protagonists are five U. of T. students). Just a chapter ago, the author suggested that they would eventually meet the Eternal Champion so maybe it will turn out to be a little interesting after all. By the way, once you have read sufficient heroic fantasy by Moorcock, you are ready to read the Dancers at the End of Time trilogy in which he mercilessly rips all his other books to comic shreds. The hero is the Eternal Champion again, but this time gone to decadence and being shamelessly manipulated by yet another incarnation of the Eternal Champion. Lots of giggles, especially for those who can catch the multitude of snide references to Moorcock's other work. Jim Gardner, University of Waterloo