Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site hlwpb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!mhuxh!hlexa!hlwpb!scj From: scj@hlwpb.UUCP (S.C. Jones) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: "dead fish" handshakes given by males to females Message-ID: <353@hlwpb.UUCP> Date: Wed, 24-Jul-85 12:24:25 EDT Article-I.D.: hlwpb.353 Posted: Wed Jul 24 12:24:25 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 06:48:19 EDT References: <234@cuuxa.UUCP> <850@ihlpg.UUCP> <698@lll-crg.ARPA> <150@dcc1.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Short Hills, NJ Lines: 40 > In article <698@lll-crg.ARPA> bandy@lll-crg.UUCP (Andrew Scott Beals) writes: > >In some random article or another, someone female says that she hates > >"dead fish" handshakes given by males and goes on to say that they should > >leave a "good indication of their presence" (paraphrased) and not treat her > >like china. [what annoys me are men who shake my hand like a dead fish...] > > > >Of course, the degree of firmness that can be given without pain varies > >widely from person to person (with a good metric being that women can > >tolerate a good deal less squeeze (or perhaps the men are all being macho > >and just aren't complaining)), and I don't really want to hurt anyone, but > >being that I'm not Emily Post, I shall bow to her: > > > >[taken from chapter 3, "How do you do?"--Greetings] > > > >Personality of a handshake > > > > What really irritates me is that (in a social situation at least) IT IS > OFTEN FORGOTTEN THAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE WOMAN'S PEROGATIVE to initiate > the hand shake when being introduced to a new male. > If she doesn't put her hand out to be shaken, you (males) are not > supposed to push yours out there ( or worse yet, grab hers) > > She is supposed to decide if that contact is desired and if not, it > should not be 'pushed' on her. > > I assume in a business situation it is better to be ready to shake > hands with 'anyone'. Then you hope for a decent firm (non-bone crushing) > grip. > > PS I know a lot of older people (and others) with arthritis who > would prefer gentle firmness to macho clamping any day. > -- > > unixcorn (alias m. gould) > > "there's a unicorn in the garden and he's eating a lily" > gatech!dcc1!unixcorn *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***