Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!ut-sally!pooh From: pooh@ut-sally.UUCP (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Hurting the other by a "no" Message-ID: <2459@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 23:50:08 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.2459 Posted: Tue Jul 23 23:50:08 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Jul-85 00:13:43 EDT References: <5557@cbscc.UUCP> <591@unc.UUCP> <854@ihlpg.UUCP> <750@ihuxa.UUCP> <2390@ut-sally.UUCP> <754@ihuxa.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 43 > > > I'm a (almost totally) self-actualized individual and I <--- from me. > > > KNOW that my emotions are my own CHOICE. Yes, > > > folks, choice. > > > > Okay, Julie, this is great for you--but do NOT decide > > for someone else that his emotions are his own choice. > > > > Pooh > > > Sorry, luv. If you give someone else responsibility for and > control of your actions and reactions (EMOTIONS, is what I'm talking > of) then you are living through them, not through yourself. If this > is what you want, then it is your choice. (gee, there's that word > again.) Bull paddies. I argue that no one has complete control of his or her emotional reactions, and moreover, that it is unhealthy to seek control. It is normal to react to the actions of another--and if you call that "living through" him/her, fine. What disturbs me most about this school of thinking that you appear to be espousing is that when you claim Joe has complete responsibility for his emotions, you are freeing yourself from any responsibility for them, thereby leaving yourself free to hurt him with impunity. I believe that TO A CERTAIN EXTENT (limits subject to debate), we are all responsible for the feelings of our fellow humans. Becoming involved in a relationship means assuming (willingly) more responsibility for your partner's feelings and emotional welfare. Disclaiming or rejecting responsibility for the effect your actions have on someone's emotions may make yourself feel better (and more able to become The Best Person You Can Possibly Be), but it strikes me as selfish and insensitive. > Gypsy (Julie Hoff) ...ihnp4!ihuxa!hoff Pooh pooh@purdue-ecn-cb.ARPA pur-ee!pooh Still fighting for the big issues-- in my small, individual way. . .