Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!ut-sally!pooh From: pooh@ut-sally.UUCP (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: BEING RESPONSIBLE Message-ID: <2471@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 10:10:33 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.2471 Posted: Thu Jul 25 10:10:33 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Jul-85 04:51:06 EDT Distribution: net Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 50 I cannot believe some of the things I'm hearing in connection with this topic. Greg, it is fine for you to talk yourself out of being depressed, but recognize that you are subscribing to a belief that is JUST THAT--a school of thought propounded by a seminar that you happened to attend. Do not be so presumptuous as to expect everyone else to work the same way. I would like to see those self-actualized people out there try to cheer up a depressed friend by saying, "This is all your fault, you know. You could be happy if you really wanted to." The only hint of concern for other people that I've heard has come from Bruce Israel (who is a genuinely nice guy in person too). At least he talks about trying to make the world around him a better place--which includes looking to SOME EXTENT after those things that he can affect. Like the emotional welfare of friends. Greg, you say that letting someone have complete responsibility for his own feelings is not the same as refusing any responsibility yourself. I disagree. I think it is a great way to kick back and say, "Hey, I'm not responsible for your feelings--you are. I'm responsible for me, you're responsible for you. . ." and ignoring the fact that we humans are all dependent on each other--as an organism, if you like. I realize that I can't be responsible for all the feelings out there, but dammit, at least I'm out there doing what I can! If I can choose a kinder way of saying something so as to make someone feel a little better, I'm going to do it. If someone just needs someone to listen to him, or to offer sympathy, I'm going to do it. That's the LEAST we can do for each other. Pooh purdue-ecn-cb.ARPA pur-ee!pooh Sie boppt, er boppt, wir boppen. . . Elle boppe, il boppe, nous boppons. . .~ (try that on for size, Ms. Lauper!)