Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!gatech!ut-sally!pooh From: pooh@ut-sally.UUCP (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Hurting the other by a "no" Message-ID: <2483@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Jul-85 09:39:44 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.2483 Posted: Fri Jul 26 09:39:44 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 00:11:17 EDT References: <5557@cbscc.UUCP> <591@unc.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 32 > > What disturbs me most about this school of thinking that > > you appear to be espousing is that when you claim Joe has > > complete responsibility for his emotions, you are freeing yourself > > from any responsibility for them, thereby leaving yourself > > free to hurt him with impunity. > > I do not believe that this follows. Saying that Joe has final responsibility > for his feelings is not the same thing as saying that what I do has no effect. > By being deliberately hurtful, I might create the possibility for him to > choose to feel pain that might not have otherwise existed. Similarly, > by being nice to him I can create the possibility for him to choose to feel > good. > > --Greg But you are still claiming, when all is said and done, that people can choose whatever they are feeling. I say this is a crock of manure. Even you have experienced emotions recently that I know you would not have chosen willingly. People do not *own* their emotions like a suit, cannot choose them like a pair of socks. They *are* their emotions. We are all creatures who react to stimuli. Pooh pooh@purdue-ecn-cb.ARPA pur-ee!pooh (yes, we have no domains, we have no domains today) "Why, Spock, you wouldn't know what to DO with a genuine, warm, decent feeling!"