Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!bbncca!obrien From: obrien@bbncca.ARPA (Mike O'Brien ) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Re: Re: marriage = commitment Message-ID: <1507@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Sun, 28-Jul-85 22:31:29 EDT Article-I.D.: bbncca.1507 Posted: Sun Jul 28 22:31:29 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Jul-85 03:08:36 EDT References: <508@ttidcc.UUCP> <485@oliveb.UUCP> <684@lll-crg.ARPA> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 41 I've been watching with some amazement and a great deal of amusement as the human potential movement meets the American public head-on, here. Many recent posters on this newsgroup have been espousing a set of principles and viewpoints based on self-actualization, human potential, and "taking charge of one's life." I did quite a bit of this sort of work when I was living in Los Angeles (a veritable haven of such folks, of all persuasions). I came to the conclusion that there is nothing at all wrong with this viewpoint, and quite a bit that's right, but the opportunities for misuse are just awful, particularly in terms of interpersonal relationships. Some recent posters have it right: according to this school, you can't help feeling whatever it is that you feel, and it's extremely destructive to deny it. You should, if you want to control your life, acknowledge what feel, without being obligated to let those feelings run your life. The amusing (but distressing) part comes when people who have grown up feeling helpless, but who have turned their lives around through these principles, proceed to try to give advice to others about managing their pain. The would-be "helpers" are so dazzled by the possibilities that they come across as the most insensitive, lame-brained, selfish bunch of clotpoles imaginable. "What do you mean, you're down and out and suffering? Shape up! Your emotions are your responsibility and you're only down on the floor because you want to be!" In some sense this may be true, but this bald a statement of techniques and possibilities is about as useful and appropriate as a sportscaster at a funeral. Quite frankly, the only one I've read who really had an appropriate reaction to all of this was Pooh. Nice going, Wendy! Human potentialists are the lamest bunch of people I've ever seen when a little quiet sympathy is wanted. Maybe I don't feel like turning my life around today! Maybe I want to have a little help just "having" my emotions, till they run out! Then I can take charge of things, with my energy renewed. Old people who manage to become wise instead of childish have known for millenia how all this stuff really works. It's hard to think about really new things. Bald, short statements of the basics of human potential are going to seem really alien to those who, in this newsgroup, just want to find/get along with a MOTAS. To have fun and laugh a lot while learning to confront new things, regardless of what those things are, go watch "My Dinner with Andre."