Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!allegra!oliveb!hplabs!tektronix!reed!thoma From: thoma@reed.UUCP (Ann Muir Thomas) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: self-actualization Message-ID: <1744@reed.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Jul-85 03:17:55 EDT Article-I.D.: reed.1744 Posted: Tue Jul 30 03:17:55 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Aug-85 22:23:06 EDT Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 42 *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** from the depths of keyboard hell comes.... I am looking at this discussion from the viewpoint of one who has gone through years and years of therapy, medication for depression, and yes, a self-actualization seminar...The last of these was very, very difficult; I was too immature at the time to understand the difference between taking responsibility for one's emotions and feelings (etc...) and blaming oneself for everything that happens. I spent several years recovering from that one weekend in a hotel in Hollywood with every variety of person imaginable, from secretary to porn star to grandfather...all of us looking for the same thing, happiness. The man running the seminar didn't give it to us, although his stories were interesting enough; only one woman, who had literally spent her life savings to be there, saw through his show at the time. Annd she was pissed! I just want to tell you all that recovery and growth come from **inside**; you can get all the tips in the world from seminars, books, shrinks etc. and not change a thing, because you are SCARED, or you really don't want to change. I know; I have been there. And I am still growing into myself, still in therapy, but oh the changes I have made in the past two years! The basic problem is that I have the mental development of a 35 year old, and the emotional development of a teenager...can you imagine what that is like? There is so much to be done, and so little time.... No, I'm not drunk, or drugged (I don't get into that!) just very very tired..... Ann ...tektronix!reed!thoma "Blackberries, when left at room temperature for several days, will start to ferment quite happily...the potential for a wondrous beverage is there, but controlling the fermentation is very difficult."