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From: pooh@ut-sally.UUCP (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen)
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Subject: Re: Color Analysis Tirade ( long and futile )
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Date: Fri, 2-Aug-85 18:46:20 EDT
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Posted: Fri Aug  2 18:46:20 1985
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> 
> >your hands that you can afford to sit around and
> >wonder whether your shirt is really matching your
> >complexion, then I suggest you try working on a
> >kibbutz in Israel (and doing guard duty there),
> >finding out what's holding up the food shipments to
> >Ethiopia, or at the VERY least going out and cheering
> >up a depressed friend.
> 
> >No wonder so many Americans are seen as shallow
> >and narcissistic.  Jeezus.
> 
Mark Ramberg writes:

> Pooh says nothing in regards to any MOTAS hunt.
> She specifically attacks Color Analysis, in effect calling it a waste of
> time and money that ought be applied to pursuits she considers worthwhile
> ( monocentricity lives ). 

Not quite, Mark.  I said the following:
> >I can think of hundreds of more useful classes to
> >take.  

Not specifically saying, "Take Serbo-Croatian Basket Weaving
instead."  Yes, I do consider it a waste of time and money.

> She even implies that the very existance of 
> Color Analysis is indicative of a state of American society that causes
> us to be held in low worldly esteem. 

Yes, I sure do.  When was the last time you lived abroad,
Mark?  Have you ever opened your eyes to the existence of
a culture different from your own?

> Hmmm... She also tacks on that ever
> popular deadly sin, narcissism. Quick, Homer, get the torches, those damn
> Color Analysts are meetin' in Jeb's cellar. 

Very cute, but you don't manage to defend Color Analysis
against my accusation.  

> It seems to me a relatively
> innocuous (sp?) activity. It seems to yield some debatably positive results
> ( " It's better to look good than to feel good" :-) ). Hell, I'd rather see
> my future offspring into self adornment than, say, watching game shows. Gets
> 'em out of the house, don't you see. But I digress...  

Large humor content, but little persuasive rhetoric.

> Perhaps, but I submit to the net the question of
> how many of our daily activities are equally silly. How many rounds of 
> golf ( the third silliest sport in the known universe ) have been
> played to further business pursuits? How many Nautilus machines have
> been worn out for the chance to speak with the cutie ( or hunk ) on the
> lat pulldown? etc. etc. etc. How many things have you done with motives
> not directly related to the event itself?  

I have never done any activity simply to meet a MOTAS.
I have, however, done some frivolous things simply to enjoy
being with a friend.

Nevertheless, getting back to Color Analysis as opposed to
playing a sport, or drawing, or playing chess, I still maintain
that it is too much effort and time for its value (except
perhaps to the ego).

> No, I don't think helping people is a dirty word. I do not hold people who
> have "balanced" lives in contempt. Certainly not the contempt Pooh seems to
> have for those who seek a fashion sense. 

There is nothing wrong with a fashion sense.  However,
spending your leisure hours finding a certain shade
of fuchsia is going too far.  To me, it is the equivalent
of sitting in front of a mirror for that amount of time.

> Apparently she feels that, unlike
> her mature outlook, 

Hey, you said it, not me.

> these poor misguided women and men devote themselves
> entirely to the quest for the perfect blouse. They certainly couldn't be
> doing anything "useful" with their time and money if they are airheaded
> enough to be interested in their personal apperance. 

If they are airheaded enough to be THAT interested in their
personal appearance, to the exclusion of all else, yes.

> Enough said. In closing, I do know what a Kibbutz is, but suggesting I
> guard one is bit pro Israel for me. Besides, the commute would be such
> a bitch.

Flippancy and ridicule again.  I suggested it as a way
of becoming aware of some REAL issues, but the seriousness
would probably be wasted on you.


> Mark " Which way to the bar?" Ramberg

Is this your personal philosophy, Mark?

>              " Joke them if they can't take a screw "

Joke them if that's all they can understand,
Pooh

pooh@purdue-ecn-cb.ARPA    pur-ee!pooh

And I find it kind of funny,
  I find it kind of sad. . .