Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84 chuqui version 1.9 3/12/85; site unisoft.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!dual!unisoft!tim From: tim@unisoft.UUCP (Tim Bessie) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.social Subject: Re: The use of '-type' Message-ID: <528@unisoft.UUCP> Date: Fri, 2-Aug-85 15:22:00 EDT Article-I.D.: unisoft.528 Posted: Fri Aug 2 15:22:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 4-Aug-85 07:25:04 EDT References: <968@peora.UUCP> <1424@mtx5b.UUCP> Reply-To: tim@unisoft.UUCP (Tim Bessie) Organization: UniSoft Systems, Berkeley Lines: 49 Xref: linus net.singles:7386 net.social:814 In article <67@unc.unc.UUCP> fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) writes: > >In article <518@unisoft.UUCP> tim@unisoft.UUCP (Tim Bessie) writes: >>Frank, are you implying that society's rules are systematic? That >>would be the joke of the century. >> - Tim > >They could be systematic. The system may just be too complex >for any one person to understand. Even if they are not systematic, >my point still holds. We can choose to live according to society's >preferences, or if we don't approve of these rules, we can disreguard >them, and willingly pay the consequences. But, to ignore them and >pretend these rules don't exist is foolish. > > Frank Silbermann What I am saying is, "society" has many rules, almost each one having a completely contradictory rule. For example, you hear people saying how having many lovers is promiscuous and "bad." Yet, the media presents images of beautiful, sexy people being extremely sexual with EVERYONE, and with both reslects on society, and effects it, so that you get two conflicting ideas about sexual behaviour. To be more general, people say how good it is to be individual and artistic, yet how one should be a "team playing" and "go along with the stream." Aren't these opposite views? They may apply to different situations and people, how the ideas themselves are always floating around and being applied to every conceivable time, place and person. What makes one right and one wrong, according to society? You are right, society IS complex. It is not consistent within itself, and you cannot form a value system based on all the ideas it has to present. You must therefore pick and chose which ideas you like, and throw others away, at least for the moment. You must also think for yourself, no matter HOW much pressure there is from ANY aspect of society. Anyway, that's the way I want to run my life, and I find its the happiest, most rewarding route. - Tim ============================================================== There's nuthin' sadder'n a wet troll. - The Outlandish Wizard ---> Tim Bessie ----- {ucbvax,dual}!unisoft!tim ---> Unisoft Systems; 739 Allston Way; Berkeley, CA 94710 ---> (415) 644-1230 TWX II 910 366-2145