Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site boring.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!boring!ken From: ken@boring.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sources.mac,net.news Subject: A modest proposal Message-ID: <6529@boring.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 17:16:35 EDT Article-I.D.: boring.6529 Posted: Tue Jul 23 17:16:35 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 01:01:55 EDT Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Lines: 45 Xref: linus net.sources.mac:430 net.news:2900 Summary: reducing net costs Apparently-To: rnews@mcvax.LOCAL References: Sender: ken@mcvax.UUCP (Ken Yap) Reply-To: ken@mcvax.UUCP (Ken Yap) Followup-To: net.news Distribution: net Organization: Centrum voor Wiskunde en Informatica, Amsterdam Keywords: [There are more flames in net.news than net.flames now :-)] Amidst the net.flame brouhaha, I read in mod.newslists that this week net.sources.mac accounted for 10% of total net traffic thru seismo, twice that of the next volumous newsgroup. Curious as to how much redundancy remained in Mac Binhex postings, I tried the following script on 4 large articles (actually Rick Jansen's TeX stuff). tr -d '\012' < hex | compress | encode | fold -72 > newhex and obtained reductions between 15 and 30%. (Encode is not uuencode but a program by Robert Elz (?) to map 8 bit data to 7 bit printable ASCII.) The reverse transformation would be: tr -d '\012' < newhex | decode | uncompress | fold -64 > hex Questions: It it worth applying this compaction to postings to reduce net traffic? Would it cause problems? Is there already a new Binhex format that optimizes packing? Problems I can see: Everyone would need compress (which is PD), encode/decode (which if not PD are simple enough to recreate) and fold. This format would be sensitive to small errors but Binhex already is anyway. Lines starting with ~ could upset mailers. Some links already apply compression to net news. Comments welcome. Flames to /dev/null. Regards, Ken -- UUCP: ..!{seismo,okstate,garfield,decvax,philabs}!mcvax!ken Voice: Ken! Mail: Centrum voor Wiskunde en Informatica, Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ, Amsterdam.