Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 11/03/84 (WLS Mods); site fisher.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!astrovax!fisher!david From: david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball Subject: Re: Mortgaging The Future (Paciorek Acquisition) Message-ID: <710@fisher.UUCP> Date: Mon, 22-Jul-85 10:25:18 EDT Article-I.D.: fisher.710 Posted: Mon Jul 22 10:25:18 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 01:37:23 EDT References: <690@spuxll.UUCP> Organization: Princeton University Department of Statistics Lines: 44 > What do you fellow netters think? Oh, wow. My opinion was solicited... I think, in general, it [the proposition that a team in a pennant stretch trade away some prospects for immediate help] is a sound idea. If you always look to the future, and never make the deal that helps today but hurts tomorrow, you're going to wind up like the Tigers of the post-WWII era: you're going to be THE top team over a period of a decade or whatever, but you're consistently going to be beaten out by teams willing to make the move for that particular year. If you're the Orioles of the '60s and '70s, you can get away with never making such trades, because you have SO much more talent coming through your system than anyone else in the league. However, if you are not in that position, than you can't do that, and must deal. Winning teams give up more talent than they get, as they are looking for specific kinds of talent; losing teams get more than they give up, as they're looking to maximize talent, and can use it most everywhere. The Mets, while they have probably the most productive farm system in the NL at the moment, are still in the same class as the Dodgers, Cardinals, and Phillies in producing talent; they cannot assume the isolationist attitude that Baltimore and Los Angeles have sometimes taken in the past. My criticism of the Paciorek-Cochrane deal is not the general one of trading away the future, but the very specific one of not having gotten enough for the present. The warning sign is that the White Sox, the other team in the deal, are NOT a non-contending team looking just toward the future, nor do they possess an overabundance of the quality Paciorek supposedly represents: bench offense. Now, I've heard all the stuff about the Paciorek-LaRussa feud, but I doubt they were very material; instead, I suspect the White Sox have decided he is over-the-hill. Paciorek replaces Christiansen on the Mets' roster. He must produce more than Christiansen would have, or the deal is manifestly in error. I think it is likely that it will prove to have been in error, as I see no reason to expect Paciorek to produce much more in New York than he did in Chicago, and I see many reasons to expect Christiansen to improve on his first half. David Rubin {allegra|astrovax|princeton}!fisher!david