Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site uwmacc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!demillo From: demillo@uwmacc.UUCP (Rob DeMillo) Newsgroups: net.startrek Subject: Re: An Original ST Pilot? Message-ID: <1319@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 18:01:58 EDT Article-I.D.: uwmacc.1319 Posted: Tue Jul 23 18:01:58 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Jul-85 00:42:51 EDT References: <593@alberta.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: UWisconsin-Madison Academic Comp Center Lines: 42 > "The Menagerie" was shown recently here, and a friend of mine presented the > idea that Captain Pike's adventures on Talos IV comprised the original pilot > of the Star Trek series. I told him that there was no pilot for the series, > and the list of ST episodes distributed recently on the Net does not mention > one. So, the question is, is he on drugs, or what? > > Andrew Folkins YABS : If you think education is expensive, > ihnp4!alberta!andrew consider the price of ignorance. ...'fraid your friend is quite right. There were two ST pilots. Captain Pike was the original Captain of the Enterprise in the Roddenberry pilot "the menagerie." (same name) I cannot remember the whole story, but it necessitated Roddenberry making a new pilot. By this time (1 year later) the fellow who played Pike moved on to other projects, and Roddenberry had some other idea...like taking the non-emotions from Number One and giving them to Spock. (The original idea for Spock, and Vulcans in general, was to have them WILDLY emotional.) The changes are evident in the new captain, the new Spock, the new look of the Enterprise in the second pilot... (can anyone guess?) "Where No Man Has Gone Before." At some point, Roddenberry thought it would be neat to use the old Menagerie footage in a new ST episode...thereby making the two-parter that we all know and love... -- --- Rob DeMillo Madison Academic Computer Center ...seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!demillo / =|-- = \ = [][][] "...I don't know what this thing does, but it's pointing in your direction."