Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site telesoft.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!telesoft!pilotti From: pilotti@telesoft.UUCP (Keith Pilotti @shine) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Limiting logons to licensed number: how? Message-ID: <169@telesoft.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 23:32:58 EDT Article-I.D.: telesoft.169 Posted: Thu Aug 1 23:32:58 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Aug-85 21:45:42 EDT References: <1029@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> <112@vcvax1.UUCP> Reply-To: pilotti@telesoft.UUCP (Keith Pilotti @shine) Organization: TeleSoft, SanDiego CA Lines: 42 Keywords: AT&T, $$ Summary: Unix license ripoff In article <112@vcvax1.UUCP> paul@vcvax1.UUCP (paul) writes: >I should point out that our licensing from AT&T is on a per-user >basis, so we are legally obligated to restrict the number of >users to the licensed number. Hmmm, I might be spoiled by public domain software, but my gut feeling isn't too good on this. First it was PER-CPU licensing, now it's PER-USER ? What's next, PER-PROCESS ?? PER-CYCLE ??? (Imagine: "I'm sorry, the PID you just created, 1-0-0-1, is beyond the daily limit imposed by your license. Please reboot the machine or come back tomorrow.") Maybe I'm economically naive, but I think this is ridiculous. When I buy something, I feel I should be able to do whatever I darn well please with it. I'd rather not have some Big-Brother tell me I can only toast bread Monday-Friday unless I pay more for the toaster. I realize I don't ever "buy" Unix, just "rent", and that if I don't like it I don't have to use it. (Those answers are cop-outs.) Thinking of other commodities in life, the precedent of charging more money for greater use seems to be justified and expected only for things which are consumable. I don't see that to be the case with hardware or operating systems. How does it cost AT&T more to develop Unix depending on the number of people that can login to my machine? This also implies that if I normally have 5 users, and for one week a year I have 10, I'm forced to pay for 10 users always. I can't help but think that the whole point behind this is to charge "what the market will bear", ie. to squeeze every last dime out of the consumer's pocket, regardless of justification. I would like to hear considered opinions on this topic, pro and con. Thanks... /+\ Keith ________________________________________________________ KEITH F. PILOTTI -- TeleSoft (619) 457-2700 x172 10639 Roselle St, SanDiego, CA 92121 (UUCP) {decvax,ucbvax}!sdcsvax!telesoft!pilotti (ARPA) Pilotti@UCSD