Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hcradm.UUCP Path: utzoo!hcrvax!hcradm!mike From: mike@hcradm.UUCP (Mike Tilson) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Limiting logons to licensed number: how? Message-ID: <2154@hcradm.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Aug-85 18:06:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hcradm.2154 Posted: Sun Aug 4 18:06:00 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 5-Aug-85 04:09:41 EDT References: <1029@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> <112@vcvax1.UUCP> <169@telesoft.UUCP> Organization: Human Computing Resources, Toronto Lines: 38 Keywords: AT&T, $$ Keith F. Pilotti (telesoft!pilotti) recently questioned the propriety of charging for UNIX "by the user", on the grounds that when you buy something, there shouldn't be any restrictions on the use of the item bought. The license restriction on number of users was viewed as a "Big Brother" feature, and generally a ripoff. He said that he should be able to do anything he pleases once he has bought a copy. While it is true that AT&T is charging a different price for exactly the same software, depending on use, I don't think this is immoral, at least if you agree that it is OK to charge for software in the first place. (If you think software should be public domain, that is another argument.) Software is not a tangible item -- it is "intellectual property", and the terms under which it is used can be set by the owner. If you don't want to use it under those terms, you don't have to buy a license. It can be licensed for use in a company, at one site, on a particular CPU, by the user, and sometimes according to how much it is actually used. (This last is common for proprietary packages used on timesharing systems, for example.) Per-user licensing is an attempt to recover costs and make a profit that is roughly constant according to the number of users -- an unlimited user license makes sense on a large machine with over a hundred users, and the cost per user approximates the licensing cost for a hundred single user PCs. Therefore, AT&T's revenue is in proportion to the value received, whether or not the hundred users are spread over a network or operating on one machine. If only one price was charged, then in order to get the same revenue stream, AT&T would have a charge a price that was somewhere between the current single-user price (very cheap) and the "mainframe" price ($7000 I think.) The result would be a bargain for big mainframes, at the expense of higher prices for the "little guy". You might feel better to view the user-pricing as a small machine discount. Historically, I believe that was how it was derived. /Michael Tilson /Human Computing Resources Corp /{decvax,utzoo}!hcr!hcradm!mike