Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site mips.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!Glacier!mips!mash From: mash@mips.UUCP (John Mashey) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Limiting logons to licensed number: how? Message-ID: <156@mips.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Aug-85 23:23:39 EDT Article-I.D.: mips.156 Posted: Sun Aug 4 23:23:39 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Aug-85 06:04:36 EDT References: <1029@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> <112@vcvax1.UUCP> <169@telesoft.UUCP> Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA Lines: 35 KEITH F. PILOTTI {decvax,ucbvax}!sdcsvax!telesoft!pilotti writes: > Hmmm, I might be spoiled by public domain software, but my gut feeling > isn't too good on this. First it was PER-CPU licensing, now it's > PER-USER ? What's next, PER-PROCESS ?? PER-CYCLE ??? (Imagine: .... > > Maybe I'm economically naive, but I think this is ridiculous. When I buy > something, I feel I should be able to do whatever I darn well please with > it. I'd rather not have some Big-Brother tell me I can only toast bread > Monday-Friday unless I pay more for the toaster. > > Thinking of other commodities in life, the precedent of charging more > money for greater use seems to be justified and expected only for things > which are consumable. I don't see that to be the case with hardware or > operating systems.... 1) There is a long history of IBM and others charging for software on the basis of the system size, even with the same software running. There is also IBM history of paying more for running the same machine 3 shifts instead of 2. All of this is usually called "value pricing". 2) Remember how ATT got here: an important reason for all of this was to REDUCE the binary charge for the smaller systems, because people wouldn't pay VAX-size prices for 68K-size machines. Of course, there are always corporate goals of total revenue. 3) All of this is a tricky issue; I'd rather have per-user pricing, so that I can both have cheap software on cheap machines, and reasonable per-user costs on big machines, than have cut either end off. If you look the numbers, what they seem to be doing is to try to get a consistent per-user cost for software [with some aberrations here and there]. -- -john mashey UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!mash DDD: 415-960-1200 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 1330 Charleston Rd, Mtn View, CA 94043