Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.PCS 1/10/84; site mtgzz.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!drutx!mtuxo!mtgzz!seb From: seb@mtgzz.UUCP (s.e.badian) Newsgroups: net.women,net.music Subject: Re: Performers with sexual images seen as role models Message-ID: <953@mtgzz.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 17:54:28 EDT Article-I.D.: mtgzz.953 Posted: Fri Jul 19 17:54:28 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 12:05:44 EDT References: <4728@mit-eddie.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Labs, Middletown NJ Lines: 51 Xref: watmath net.women:6517 net.music:8407 I think Madonna has a great deal going. She knows exactly how to get everyone hot and spend money on her albums and concerts. (I heard that her first tour, the Virgin tour, has totally sold out. This is the first time this has ever happened. Obviously the woman is doing something right.) I've heard Madonna give interviews and she's no gum-chewing, "boy toy" idiot. She has a gimmick and she's playing it to the hilt. I don't think she planned on being a role model. Her image brings up some interesting questions though. She plays on sexuality. She plays on the fact that sex is still taboo. She represents raw sexuality. She picks no bones about it. What does her appeal say about teenagers? Michael Jackson is as popular and is certainly a role model. We hear about how he's nice to his parents, doesn't use drugs or alcohol, doesn't use women. Great. He's also looks anorexic, had his features changed so he looks more "white" and seems to be from all accounts asexual. Interesting mix of characteristics for a role model. At least Madonna is up-front. You know you're dealing with someone who is throwing all-American society out the window. Does that mean that the teenagers are going to grow up to be a cross between Michael and Madonna? And why do they find these pop stars so interesting? Do you think it's their personal or political beliefs? Thinking back to my teenage years(it wasn't that long ago) I try to remember why I liked certain rock stars. It was the music that appealed to me. That was how I heard about the rock stars. But after that it was the image that appealed. Not their political beliefs, not their personal lives, not the way they treated their mothers. And there is no denying that both Jackson and Madonna have strong images, images specially crafted to appeal to today's teenagers raised on MTV. These people are in it to make money, not corrupt our nation's youth. It's amazing how much flak they generate. And besides, I don't really care a heck of a lot if Madonna's pictures got into Playboy and Penthouse. I don't think she's a bad role model for young women. She's independent, she knows what she wants and knows how to get it. She's not the typical sex toy since she knows what she's doing and is controling her life by playing off the weakness men have for her. She's irrevrent, doesn't care one whit if she ticks off the establishment. "Material Girl" does expound a rather mercernary viewpoint, but the video shows just the opposite. "Like a Virgin" is of no philosophical importance, but it is insipid, but I won't fault her for that. I'm really quite sick of the stink over Madonna. I'm quite sick about how people can draw some pretty nasty conclusions about a woman's soul based on a few pictures in some lousy magazine. And what makes me most sick is the why Penthouse and Playboy get to clean up on the whole thing. Sharon Badian ihnp4!mtgzz!seb