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From: desjardins@h-sc1.UUCP (marie desjardins)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: opportunits, women
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Date: Mon, 22-Jul-85 18:17:08 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jul 22 18:17:08 1985
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> -> Why don't you guys go out and get your corporations to provide good 
> -> child care instead of participating in useless socio-sexual pedantry?
> 
> -> Catherine Mikkelsen @Teknisk
> 
> Why don't people (couples) who can't support children
> stop having so many of them.  Granted, in a large number
> of "woman head of household" cases the woman may have expected
> the husband to "provide" and then he may have run off without
> paying child support, but I hardly think this is the rule.

Two good reasons for providing child care at work:
   -  it encourages people with children to work (perhaps they COULD but
      this gives them another incentive, and they actually might turn
      out to be useful (gasp!))
   -  many people like to work for their own personal satisfaction.
      day care at work not only gives both parents the opportunity to
      work, but is more convenient than day care elsewhere may be.

> Nobody has the right to expect ME to pay for their children
> (via welfare, etc.) except for the case above.

What does day care at work have to do with welfare?  One is provided
by a corporation as a perq, the other is provided by the government.

As for welfare, though, I don't deny that there almost certainly are
a number of people who "expect" the government to pay for their
children.  However, I don't think that most people on welfare
choose to be so (and probably more of them than you would think 
are single women!).

> If their religion
> doesn't allow or believe in birth control, that's just tough shit.
> Make BIRTH CONTROL free--it's a lot cheaper than welfare support
> payments.

I agree, but don't forget that first you have to educate everyone 
about sex and birth control; believe it or not, there *are* people 
out there who have kids without even really knowing how babies are
made!

In addition, a lot of poor people probably have kids in the hope
that they'll grow up and help out with money.  That is, the problem
of poverty may exist in the first place, and getting this kids on
welfare is something they do in order to (eventually) have another
worker in the family.

	marie desjardins park