Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihu1e.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihu1e!mjv From: mjv@ihu1e.UUCP (Vlach) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: gender specific pronouns again Message-ID: <500@ihu1e.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 23:18:35 EDT Article-I.D.: ihu1e.500 Posted: Tue Jul 23 23:18:35 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 07:26:20 EDT References: <539@ttidcc.UUCP> <28228@lanl.ARPA> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 23 > > What does that do to the stance that the pronoun "he" already stands for > > everybody (and not just male people)? [much deleted] I know that he is often used in a generic sense, but since he means a male person in many cases, I always thought it was sort of obnoxious. I don't feel like the average "he", that's for sure. I sometimes use "one" for a non-specific gendered third person. That's something I picked up from French, where it is used a great deal. Side note: In the book "Oh! Pascal", the authors explained that since most books used he for the third person, they were using she to make it more even. I thought it was a nice gesture. It was used consistantly throughout the book and was no problem in reading. I hope this 3rd person business can be fixed up. I was frequently chastised in English classes for not having my antecedents agree, because once I had said "someone" I couldn't bring myself to call them a HIM or HE unless this were the case, so I used they or them all the time. To think being a feminist can ruin your grammar. :-) Marcia Bear, somewhere in this known universe