Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site hplabsb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!hplabsb!pc From: pc@hplabsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re RAPE, etc.../ "provocative" dress Message-ID: <3014@hplabsb.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 18:46:29 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabsb.3014 Posted: Tue Jul 23 18:46:29 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 07:37:47 EDT References: <739@udenva.UUCP> <540@hou2g.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA Lines: 44 > > Again, I know of no evidence to support this theory, but it > seems the point is that perhaps, GIVEN A CHOICE, many rapists > would "prefer" to attack the more "provacatively" dressed > woman. > Scott Berry You should have stopped by just saying "I know of no evidence to support this theory." I don't believe the provocative dress bull**** for a minute. Having been attacked while I was violently ill (which had me running in&out of the bathroom), looking quite pale, disheveled, and in baggy clothing, it is clear to me that that subhuman male did not care a twit for how provocatively I was dressed. In another incident (at work, I might add) where I BEGGED a colleague to keep his hands off, he replied that it was my fault because of the way I dressed. This guy was really turned on by loose-fitting blue jeans and oversized (opaque) shirts. More to the point, he was just turned on by any female. As has been pointed out many many many times in this group, most rapes and other attacks against women are made by men who know their victims. For the lowlife described above, they just assumed that familiarity was a license. It took a police restraint to keep the first guy away. The second guy never did get through to his hormones that he needed to ask first. (I even clobbered this guy one time after he grabbed what wasn't his, being sure my demands to be left alone were not going to be respected.) So, please guys-- show some respect!!! It makes me ill to see so many men try to defend those who deliberately harm others. I cannot for the life of me understand putting down obviously hurt women by defending, excusing, or even "understanding" the actions of assailants. It is a collosal insult. Patricia Collins actions ( -- {ucbvax|duke|hao|allegra}!hplabs!pc