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From: CJC@psuvm.BITNET
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: PMS and Incompetence
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Date: Fri, 2-Aug-85 18:08:10 EDT
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Posted: Fri Aug  2 18:08:10 1985
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PMS is rare enough so that until women made an issue of it within the
last few years, the medical profession denied that any such thing existed.
Some 15 years ago I asked a gynacologist (sp?) if there was anything better
than aspirin for the increased tension I felt at that time (we had two tiny
children & had just moved to a foreign country - I didn't need *any* avoidable
stress); he replied to the effect that although a few neurotics thought they
felt 'unwell' at that time, there was nothing to cause it.
     
Now PMS is a fashionable ailment and everyone wants something to do with it,
but sometime the fad will pass.
     
Another point: Sunny posted an article comparing some experiences from both
sides; so far I've seen two responses from men, both of whom stated that
Sunny's experience couldn't be representative. However neither tried to
answer this section of Sunny's posting:
     
>                                                                  On
>the whole, from my observations of myself, and of other people, I'd
>have to say that on the average, women are less bothered by their sex
>than men are.  Back in the old days, I all to often watched previously
>intelligent conversations between men grind to a total halt, or to
>blithering idiocy, as some nice looking woman walked by, and when she'd
>disappeared from sight, would turn to discussion of her "fuckability"
>rather than back to work.  (was that blunt enough? no, not really).  This
>behavior pattern is most observable in a group of only men.  The presence
                          ----------------------------------
>of women reduces it's effects.  Much of it is a very animalistic jousting
>between the men to prove to each other who is the horniest.
>
  I'm a woman. Obviously I've never been in a group of *only men*. All I
know about how men act when no women are around is what I hear or read.
I don't recall observing a group women stopping their talk to ogle a passing
male, at least not since high school, nor discussing the possible sexual
merits of such a passer-by. Is this a real difference or isn't it?
     
                                         --Carolyn J. Clark
     
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