Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site uwmacc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!demillo From: demillo@uwmacc.UUCP (Rob DeMillo) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: PMS and Incompetence Message-ID: <1354@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 3-Aug-85 13:47:33 EDT Article-I.D.: uwmacc.1354 Posted: Sat Aug 3 13:47:33 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 4-Aug-85 20:10:48 EDT References: <2030CJC@psuvm> Organization: UWisconsin-Madison Academic Comp Center Lines: 55 > > Another point: Sunny posted an article comparing some experiences from both > sides; so far I've seen two responses from men, both of whom stated that > Sunny's experience couldn't be representative. However neither tried to > answer this section of Sunny's posting: > > > On > >the whole, from my observations of myself, and of other people, I'd > >have to say that on the average, women are less bothered by their sex > >than men are. Back in the old days, I all to often watched previously > >intelligent conversations between men grind to a total halt, or to > >blithering idiocy, as some nice looking woman walked by, and when she'd > >disappeared from sight, would turn to discussion of her "fuckability" > >rather than back to work. (was that blunt enough? no, not really). This > >behavior pattern is most observable in a group of only men. The presence > ---------------------------------- > >of women reduces it's effects. Much of it is a very animalistic jousting > >between the men to prove to each other who is the horniest. > > > I'm a woman. Obviously I've never been in a group of *only men*. All I > know about how men act when no women are around is what I hear or read. > I don't recall observing a group women stopping their talk to ogle a passing > male, at least not since high school, nor discussing the possible sexual ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > merits of such a passer-by. Is this a real difference or isn't it? > > --Carolyn J. Clark > Bingo! We have no idea how old Sunny was when she was male and with her friends. Juvinality (sp?) may count towards a large part of this...although, I will admit that "group machoness" will prolong those "high school instincts" longer in men. But, as Carolyn points out, we all, at one time or another, ogle or have ogled MOTAS. ("...have ogled...?") Anyway, just a comment.... -- --- Rob DeMillo Madison Academic Computer Center ...seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!demillo "...That's enough, that's enough! Television's takin' its toll. Turn it off, turn it off! Give me the remote control! I've been nice! I've been good! Please don't do this to me! I've been nice, turn it off, I don't wanna hav'ta see... ...'The Brady Bunch!'"