Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lasspvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!lasspvax!norman From: norman@lasspvax.UUCP (Norman Ramsey) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Anti-rape tactics - a revision Message-ID: <424@lasspvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 2-Aug-85 19:01:16 EDT Article-I.D.: lasspvax.424 Posted: Fri Aug 2 19:01:16 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Aug-85 05:38:49 EDT References: <435@mit-vax.UUCP> Reply-To: norman@lasspvax.UUCP (Norman Ramsey) Organization: LASSP, Cornell University Lines: 24 >But that cogency depends on the "peer group" being the way it's >purported; macho, exploitive (redundant?), unsympathetic... It >strikes me that anyone who recognizes such characteristics among their >"friends" has the wrong friends. > >I'll revise my suggestion: Find a peer group that DOESN'T manifest >such attitudes. Go to parties among real friends, not men who'll rape >you once liquor overcomes their inhibitions. [Consider the joys of >not getting plastered at parties, nor going to parties where getting >shitfaced is the business of the evening.] If you can't find a set of >friends, colleagues, whatever, whom you'll trust not to assault you >there's something very wrong. > >Once you've done that, try my original suggestion. If you're involved >with a sexist crowd, you have a difficult readjustment coming, not >least of which is rebuilding your self-image (consciousness-raising). > Sounds great! Where have these people been hiding? (I'm serious, by the way -- aside from *some* of my colleagues (I'm a grad student in phsyics), I haven't met any people like this since leaving college. Norman