Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 GARFIELD 20/11/84; site garfield.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!garfield!robertj From: robertj@garfield.UUCP (Robert Janes) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Canada's defence : Doesn't anyone care? Message-ID: <3501@garfield.UUCP> Date: Wed, 4-Sep-85 07:49:47 EDT Article-I.D.: garfield.3501 Posted: Wed Sep 4 07:49:47 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Sep-85 13:26:47 EDT References: <833@utcs.UUCP> <764@lsuc.UUCP> <5906@utzoo.UUCP> <774@lsuc.UUCP> <1952@mnetor.UUCP> Reply-To: robertj@garfield.UUCP (Robert Janes) Organization: Memorial U. of Nfld. C.S. Dept., St. John's Lines: 81 Keywords: Polar Sea Incident: Why? Summary: Shoot the Messenger In article <1952@mnetor.UUCP> fred@mnetor.UUCP (Fred Williams) writes: . . . > > Furthermore, there was no need to do much. The US gave us a >letter, according to Macleans, that states that the voyage in no >way affects Canada's claims on the area. . . . >.... The only problem was that the press blew >everything out of proportion in order to improve their ratings. > >Cheers, Fred Williams ****** Here we go: let's shoot the messenger. I mean like wow how can we doubt our American FRIENDS I mean like they gave us this neat little note saying that would be nice people and not rub our noses in the Polar Sea four or five years from now. These people in the press are so icky poo to point out that our FRIEND the US doesn't recognize our claim up there in that there Artic and that they are never going to recognize our claim unless Canada kicks up a stink. ******** Sorry for the sarcasm above but those were my feelings upon reading Mr. Williams note. The Polar Sea incident aside the United States does not recognize our claim to the NorthWest Passage and does show every intention of forcing the issue soon. If it won't be for economic reasons ( LNG ) it will be for military reasons. A note of the nature sent by Washington has no binding force under International Law and it quite clearly cannot be construed as a acceptance of our rights in the region as a request for permission to enter would be. What the note promises is that if the case ever comes to court in one way or another the US will not use the Polar Sea voyage as a piece of evidence. I really don't think that is acceptable from a friend with whom we have now had a `special relationship' with for a bit over a year. This does not absolve the Liberal Administration of blame in the matter. The Trudeau Government chose to use rhetoric and publicity as weapons in the matter but neglected the obvious necessity of ice breakers or submarines capable of working in the Artic year round regardless of the thickness of the ice. It is interesting to note that from time of the Manhattan Incident to the time of the Polar Sea Incident no ( American ) ships passed through the NW Passage. This could mean either one of three things: 1) The Americans have adopted a policy of "showing the flag" within the first year of every Canadian Adminstration ( Clark and Turner didn't last long enough ). 2) they didn't want or need to send any ships through 3) Trudeau kicked up to much of a fuss the last time and this Mulroney fellow seems like a bit more of a pushover. I suspect that 2) and 3) are the most probable reasons with 3) being the most likely one for the truly paranoid 1) would have it hands down. Perhaps this is an approriate time to re-evaluate Canada's role in NATO and move towards a more Northern oriented viewpoint. we can serve NATO and ourselves by securing the North from the Soviets ( serves NATO and ourselves ) and the Americans ( serves ourselves ). This would probably entail cancelling he construction of those frigates which have not yet begun construction and building a few Polar x class icebreakers as well as redeploying troops in Europe in the North ( with the proper retraining of course ). In the end though I feel that it is disgraceful that the Prime Minister had no comment to nake on the matter until the voyage was over and its only fair to expect the press both conservative and liberal to make an issue out of it. cheers Robert Janes