Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcs.uucp Path: utzoo!utcs!shindman From: shindman@utcs.uucp (Paul Shindman) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: A naval presence in the arctic Message-ID: <867@utcs.uucp> Date: Fri, 13-Sep-85 14:40:59 EDT Article-I.D.: utcs.867 Posted: Fri Sep 13 14:40:59 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Sep-85 15:16:56 EDT References: <1386@utcsri.UUCP> <5952@utzoo.UUCP> <2168@mnetor.UUCP> Reply-To: shindman@utcs.UUCP (Paul Shindman) Organization: University of Toronto - General Purpose UNIX Lines: 33 Summary: Has Canada ever spent $500 million on a boat before? Until I see some verrrrrrrrry convincing detailed info on this ice-breaker I will remain opposed to the feds sinking 1/2 billion bucks into this. There is just no way that we need a white elephant to patrol the north. It'll be invisible in the snow so nobody will notice our so called presence anyway. The technology for such a ship is still not developed, and I can see $500 million expanding to fill that never-ending deficit. One of the minor reasons the LNG (liquid natural gas) deal with the Japanese fell through was that the technology for transporting cold things through cold water isn't really there. The technology of big boats bashing ice in the arctic full is also not that well established. One of the main problems involves the fracture mechanics of big lumps of steel with a hot engine room travelling through -3C water and -40C air. The LNG project would have gone a long way to improving the technology, but Dome and the other partners apparently did not have their act together. Wow...$500 million for one ship to crack ice cubes. (I hope I got this wrong...maybe it's 5 ships?) What about the special ports that will probably be built for it to berth in, the support facilities it will need, and I bet the cost doubles to $1 billion for a single boat. Egads. -- ----------------- Paul Shindman, U of T Computing Services, Toronto (416) 978-6878 USENET: {ihnp4|decvax}!utcs!shindman BITNET: paulie at utoronto IP SHARP MAIL: uoft