Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uw-beaver Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!laser-lovers From: laser-lovers@uw-beaver Newsgroups: fa.laser-lovers Subject: Re: Voluminous ASCII output from LaserWriter Message-ID: <1513@uw-beaver> Date: Mon, 26-Aug-85 00:46:58 EDT Article-I.D.: uw-beave.1513 Posted: Mon Aug 26 00:46:58 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Aug-85 01:50:38 EDT Sender: daemon@uw-beaver Organization: U of Washington Computer Science Lines: 38 From: adobe!taft@Glacier (Ed Taft) I too have observed lost or garbled characters in serial output from the LaserWriter, but only when certain terminals are connected. Other terminals display perfect output indefinitely. During product test, I performed extensive tests transferring large files from a Vax host to a LaserWriter and back, with no errors occurring during the round trip. (I should add that some terminals seem to have trouble with 9600 baud output from Vaxes and Suns as well, though I don't know to what extent this correlates with bad LaserWriter output.) While I don't deny that there may be a problem, it's not a simple matter of the LaserWriter discarding occasional characters. (By the way, the LaserWriter does obey XON/XOFF flow control on the outgoing channel as well as the incoming one.) There are two features of LaserWriter serial output that may contribute to lost or garbled characters: 1. The actual baud rate used at the 9600 setting is not exactly 9600 baud but is off by slightly less than 1 percent. This means that the timing of the last bit of a character is off by about 10 percent of one bit time. It is possible that some terminals are bothered by this. 2. The transmission dynamics are somewhat unusual. Though the instantaneous baud rate is 9600, the character rate is limited to 500 per second (an effective rate equivalent to approximately 5500 baud); that is, there is a gap between every pair of characters. Strictly speaking, there is nothing wrong with this; however, it is sufficiently unusual that it may foul up the firmware in some terminals. Since I don't fully understand the nature of the reported problem (if indeed it is a LaserWriter problem at all), I'm afraid I can't offer a workaround or a promise of an eventual solution. If anyone has any additional information about this problem, I would appreciate their sending it directly to me. Ed Taft Adobe Systems, Inc.