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From: tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Planned Parenthood posting
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Date: Wed, 4-Sep-85 15:23:40 EDT
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Posted: Wed Sep  4 15:23:40 1985
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> > [Pam Pincha-Wagener - Responding to Ray Frank]
> > Sigh.
> > Again we get back to "how dare my child get information from the outside
> > world against my wishes" argument.
> > First off, let us remember we are dealing with the real world. In the
> > real world, NOT ALL PARENTS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING! It's not
> > necessarily all their fault. What is true is that they exit.  A result
> > of this is that there are a large portion of kids with little or no
> > guidence,or trust,in their parents. These kids need somewhere to find
> > information. Planned parenthood had as one of its tennants to provide
							^tenets
> > such info -- info from a NON-THREATENING SOURCE! LOTS of parents will
> > not OR cannot provide any information on sex,birth control,pregnancy
> > or such. PPclinics provide this in addition to possibly performing 
> > abortions.
> > 
> > No one stated you family was such a case , or could be. The 
> > suggestions were that you put yourself in the place of such a
> > person and see thing from that viewpoint.
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> [Ray Frank]
> NOT ALL PP COUNSELORS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.  It's not necessarily all their 
> fault.  What is true is that they exist.  A result of this is that there
> are a large portion of kids who are misguided.
> 
> My juxtaposition.
> Sound familiar?
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No.  What are you trying to say, Ray?  All kids (except orphans) have
parents.  Only a very small fraction ever talk to PP, and then only for a short
time.  Even if I thought teen-aged use of contraceptives was wrong, I would
still be far off the mark blaming PP for all of this.
 So Ray, you have taken Pam's words, (accurate ones, in my opinion), and
by "clever" (to an eight year old, maybe) word substitution, have come up
with nonsense, thereby in your own mind discrediting Pam's arguments.

Please forgive a slight digression---
 Also, I am tired of hearing you blame "acid | punk | whatever" rock for
whatever it is you don't like.  I can't stand the music either, but the
only teen-age problem it is primarily responsible for is DEAFNESS.
-- 
Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL  ihnp4!ihlpg!tan