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From: sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Can we make progress?
Message-ID: <2057@mnetor.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 8-Sep-85 17:46:32 EDT
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Posted: Sun Sep  8 17:46:32 1985
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In article <30381@lanl.ARPA> sas@lanl.ARPA writes:
>Marcia, Sophie, Barb, Matt, Matt, Charles, Charli, Rich, Ray, Gary and
>	everyone else :
>
>	We have been argueing lots of issues about why and if abortion
>is this or that and why and if it is good or bad.  I would like to put
>that aside for a bit and try a different subject.  Abortion exists, all
>of us probably want to see it stop.  It won't stop if we just drop it,
>and it won't stop if we legislate it.  What will most effectively and
>effeciently eliminate abortion?  ( I mean the fact of abortion, not the
>right to it! ).
>	Abortion is not the problem, it is the symptom of a problem.  
>
>	A lot of discussion has occured recently about moral issues
>surrounding sex.  Unfortunately this is an important issue in the
>abortion debate.  What attitudes about sex, if globally held, might
>yeild a society without abortion?
>
>	A lot of discussion has occured (not recently) about social
>issues surrounding ability to pay for abortions/birth control.  This
>also is an important issue.  What method of dealing with poverty
>would help eliminate abortions (the demand for them)?

Well, I feel that since
this is one good question that has been asked in a very non-offensive
manner, it should not be ignored.

Unfortunately, I am afraid my answer is probably not the one you are
expecting, so I wish somedody else would have balanced it out by
another, but they didn't, so here goes: I don't believe there will
ever be such a thing as a society without abortion.  I don't think 
that abortion can be eliminated.  I think the situation could be
drastically improved by a combination of education, good availability
of contraceptive methods, maybe improved non-dangerous contraceptive
technologies (I think it outrageous that in this day and age, condoms,
which are by far the safest methods of birth control in terms of
side-effects as well as low failure rate, are not designed in such a
way to make them more pleasurable).  Attitudes can be changed too,
but sex will not be erradicated even if it can be delayed.  Accidents
will always happen, and there will always be difficult pregnancies.
Human reproduction is not a perfect process and that's the way things
are.  However, I was reading today that 1/4 of all pregnancies in the
US end in abortion.  This is outrageous.  While I don't think that
abortion will be eliminated, surely this situation can be greatly
improved!
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Sophie Quigley
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